She was born on Jan. 24, 1964, in eastern Pennsylvania and moved back and forth between there and Davidson County, North Carolina. The Prues were accused of luring Jenkins, a single mother, from her rural home and then strangling and beating her to death. Patricia Prue had been planning to use an insanity defense if the case were to go to trial, but she asked the court in December if she could change her plea so she could begin corresponding with her husband once again. Highly charged case. But because there is no author of this page, I would like you to contact me on the Free Patricia Rorrer facebook page. "There is nothing I or anyone can say to make what you've been put through any easier," Patricia Prue said. "Yaser Said, you're a devil. Together they had a baby girl, Nicole. According to court documents, Yassein and Islam Said had been communicating with Yaser Said since Jan. 1, 2008, to help him evade capture. If the answer is no, enough said! Why isn't Patricia "Tissie" Said in jail for her role in this "honor Said Guilty Mark and Patricia McCloskey, the St. Louis couple that infamously pointed guns at demonstrators who were marching past their house last summer, have pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges in the incident. Why not question some of this evidence? He would be alive today if it were not for Patricia Rorrer. The mild-mannered Sarah died in 2019 at the age of 83. Animals would have for sure. Once, when a gun-wielding farmer and his buddy caught Patricia and Gary riding motorcycles on his field, Patricia walked up and got in their faces and argued, Gary recalled to the Morning Call. In 1995, Larry Wright was facing a 10-year sentence for two felonies, risk of an injury to a minor and violating a restraining order, and a misdemeanor for threatening by saying, Im going to kill you, to his wife after he caught her cheating. Had there been a switch? And the obvious answer is Ill tell you why (which really is common knowledge). They also raised concerns about what they considered a lack of evidence, including the lack of fingerprints and eyewitness reports the place Said at the crime scene. Have you watched any of the documentaries Ive mentioned? Walmart woe. Yaser Abdel Said, 65, was found guilty of the 2008 capital murders of his daughters, Sarah Said, 17, and Amina Said, 18, according to the Dallas Morning News. Just saying. CHOOSE1s Three Strikes Reform Act needs 500,000 signatures by July 17 to make the November ballot, CHOOSE1 files new initiative to reform Californias Three Strikes law, The First Friday doc premieres this week at the New Parkway. You are correct the bodies were not there all that time, and it seems odd that they baby taken at 3 month, but when found he was 6 months according to Wrong Man. This case is not over yet more to follow only trouble is, law moves along at a pitiful pace. The state police dropped him as a suspect. Petition JUSTICE for Amina & Sarah Said: To interrogate Patricia Former Most-Wanted Fugitive Accused in 2008 Honor Killings of Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports, The Lindbergh Kidnapping: Forensic Files Lost Episode, Dawn Fehring: A Missionary Dies Too Young, Joanne Chambers and Paula Nawrocki: Strange Lesson. There are innocent people in prison. Why would somebody tell you, theyre going to fry me, if they didnt do it? Jarrett told Wrong Man. She got 12 months of probation for shoplifting at a Walmart in Lexington, North Carolina. Yassein and Islam Said face up to 30 years in federal prison. Thats my life.. She was born on Jan. 24, 1964, in eastern Pennsylvania and moved back and forth between there and Davidson County, North Carolina. Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? Ten months after Joann died he murdered another woman (who looks just like her) and her baby, as well. Yet they insisted in the trial that the call came in on the 13th. I was so excited that I called everyone, and Joanne picked up the phone and she said Andy is married, and I said I know, then she said we have a baby, and I said yea I know, then she said dont ever call here again. She had had numerous run-ins with the police and, each time, would tell them to be ready because the end of the world was coming. Cop defends accused. And, why is it reasonable to believe lay people accept the jury verdict? It then makes light of the fact that the car in which the (incriminating) hairs were found was absent of any blood. Whats worse is that shes innocent. However, Said never called 911. She held up pictures of her dead daughters. Jury convicts man who harbored fugitive brother accused of killing And about the only thing from your comment with which I can agree, is you saying thats not proof theyre right in reference to their verdict. I thought the justice system in my state and the people were narrow-minded and corrupt. It was total shock. They did this case on Reasonable Doubt last night. You know the answer to that, the same as I do, which is. WebPatricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. That, as well as measurements of the babys head (revealing the infant to be of a more advanced age) very much suggest they were killed some considerable time after what was believed at her trial. "Please do the right thing for Melissa.". All of them returned without a DNA analysis because they contained no root material. Another former boyfriend said she talked about Andrew frequently and liked to gaze at old photos of him. Those that think that Patricia is innocent are simply groping at straws. she didnt need to . Another point is the theory developed by the cops that the victim (Joann) was shot just one time and then bludgeoned to death. The longer it took to find the bodies the easier it would be for her alibis to be believed as it wouldve been harder for people to remember if she was at a dance class etc that she regularly attended on that specific date. 2}Wo).hf}~g={g::y]peb78R,;>59_'cuB F4QyU&9G=#0 Patricia complied fully with the original investigation of the crime and wasnt a suspect because none of the blood or fingerprints found at the crime scene matched hers. Or to keep it anonymous, click here. At the time of the killings, police said that there had been domestic problems in the family and that they were exploring all possible motives for the slayings. Marsicovetere cited studies done by several doctors during pretrial proceedings, saying that they determined Patricia Prue suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder and might suffer from dissociative identity disorder as well. I had five children to take care of and it was costing me so much money to travel two hours from Riverside to Los Angeles and sit in court all day, Patricia said. Shes extremely, extremely happy with the baby. Ive followed and made a study of this case for more than twenty years and have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. Inside the locked 1992 vehicle, police discovered some strands of blond hair stained with dried blood. Thats because they knew it was a stretch to make anyone believe she would still be so enraged a week and a day later that she jumped into a van and drove 550 miles to kill a woman and baby she never met. On Alexs diaper bag, police found strands of the same type of hair from the car. Theres also the matter of a woman who suddenly remembered she saw Joann with another man at a Food Mart store five days after the disappearance. Sorry, I must have missed your name on the witness list. How is it that these women are paroled? No Jail Time for Former Corrections Officer and Friend Who Together Breached the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. And this doesnt apply to your opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. They dont need to make money??? Its barely visible in the picture. It was just assumed to be crib death. "This was not a sudden or impetuous act on your part. Irving Police Chief Jeff Spivey hailed authorities for pursuing justice in the case for more than a decade. His favorite rattle, shaped like a phone, lay near the crime scene. Barry Grube, one of the few, if not only, police officers sympathetic to Patricias cause, noted that Andrew didnt seem particularly frantic while authorities searched desperately for his wife and son. Ls HUe7C22R>_%m~e5?h The jury deliberated for three hours after Thursday's closing arguments. Help, the younger sister could be heard crying on a 911 recording. We've received your submission. So, lets take your response one step at a time. Although the prosecution used it as evidence that she was trying to create a false alibi, it actually sounded more like Patricia was simply trying to nail down the facts he had already asserted to her. Patricia and Mark McCloskey, the St. Louis homeowners who pointed guns at protesters, pleaded not guilty Wednesday to weapons and evidence tampering charges. Proven in court and sentence awarded!!! Patricia She likely SUFFOCATED him to get revenge on the babys father who was planning on leaving her. I wonder, did they ever perform a DNA test on the baby, to verify paternity? Guilty Sorry not sorry. Patricia Youre right about my comments on other sites, but those seem to have an abundance of hate-mongers who feel no need to mince their words hence my retorts to those. I attack only those whove considered themselves not only judges on this case, but go on to vent their spleen aimed at a person who in my opinion is innocent of this crime, based on all Ive read and watched without fear of retaliation If they so freely attack someone in the most vicious way, why should they be off limits? Said Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. During the tour Alfey was able to slip away into a room that was made for a little boy. Patricia However, that first theory very neatly allows the cops to further theorise that the gun she once owned (which had a history of jamming after the first shot) was the one used at the murder. Theres something very important to this case that needs to be mentioned more than anything else THE GUN. Her jealousy and rage because Joann told her to not contact her husband set her off. So where they alive somewhere, and if so how could of Patricia, who was questioned, with not one mark on her kill them? Patricia Kopta appears in two photos, spaced some 31 years apart, after being discovered alive in Puerto Rico after being declared dead. I have to wake up every morning with the freedom that God gave me knowing that my sister is incarcerated for life and that my lies put her there, Larry wrote in a letter to the LAPD after he had been freed. Another glaring omission is Early in the investigation, the police in their zeal to add some substance to their fanciful theory about the gun used in the crime, did a thorough search of Rorrers back yard/garden (where they did target practice) looking for spent shells and bullets, in order to do a forensic comparison with the bullet recovered from the victim. Media galore. Pat will spend the rest of her natural life in prison where people like her belong. She hasnt, she didnt get a hard enough sentence. And remnants of what look like a baby rested on the mother. Another inaccuracy in this is, they state the jury took SIX HOURS to return a verdict, when in fact it took less than TWO HOURS. Its his hair (dirty blond and roughly 8 inches in length) that was found in Joanns hand. There was widespread speculation that the sisters were shot in an honor killing a practice in some cultures in which men kill female relatives who are thought to have brought shame upon their families. He jumped at the opportunity with the understanding that the emphasis would be on Lawrence Slaughter and not his sister. She should have received the death penalty imo. Cold case: Rape kits from two women lead to arrest in 1979 South Narcissistic and violent tendencies are very common. Yaser Said is accused of killing his two daughters in 2008. You took my life. The sisters, who were students at Lewisville High School, were found dead in their fathers taxi in Irving. At one point Interpol had an extremely similar case in which an individual convinced a friend, who had been his sexual partner several times in the past, to kill the woman he had a baby with, on the grounds that the child is not his and he does not love her but cannot leave because everyone would accuse him of abandoning his child and his family name would be affected. If documentaries are, as you claim, biased against Rorrer, the obvious question is why. Oh my God. A lot of these documentaries feature most of the theories suggested by the cops and prosecution which were most damaging to her case, but not a single person to substantiate Rorrers side, or to challenge their versions. Phone records confirmed Patricia placed the earlier call from North Carolina, not Pennsylvania. Its a video on Utube Judges For Justice featuring her case. Today, Patricia Lynne Rorrer resides in State Correctional Institute at Muncy, a medium and maximum security facility that has the highest rate of cancer of all prisons in Pennsylvania, according to a story from northcentralpa.com. The number of delusional people in this world both shocks and frightens me. There was a push for a mistrial, but a 16-year prison sentence was negotiated instead. I just watched Reasonable Dont on this case. A newspaper account described Patricia as a soft-spoken, demure woman who had a sweet Southern accent and wore feminine clothes in court. The girls mother, Patricia Said, fled with Rorrer is as guilty as OJ Simpson. They also found a photo of Patricia taken 11 days before the homicide. But defense lawyer Robert Pfeiffer said that plenty of evidence supported Patricias innocence. She is 100% guilty seen 2 programs on this awful murder and read about it as well. Nope. Patricia 'The Sparrow' Kopta found alive after decades Three Strikes holds dying innocent woman behind bars: Justice for There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. Police need evidence of perpetration in every claimed case, and Sells is regarded as lying about some claimed murders per inability or unwillingness to detail. She wanted all men to give her attention but she couldnt have everyones attention, especially ANDREWS!!! As for the murder weapon, police didnt find a .22 caliber pistol on Patricias property, but an ex-boyfriend claimed that she owned one and it would always jam after one shot. OK my GUESS is Patricia did do it! He took two tests and there was deception detected in BOTH. Thank you and well said. Still, no good leads materialized. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. Allen Prue maintains that he is innocent, and he has appealed his conviction to the Vermont Supreme Court. Sadly, those who defend Rorrer do not want to be confused by the truth. There are judges, eminent lawyers and writers who are in support of her. In 2016, Oklahoma police arrested the mother, Patricia Spann, now 44, and her 26-year-old daughter, Misty Velvet Dawn Spann, charging both of them with incest. Patricia and her defense team denied that allegation and said she owned her home, had no financial I believe this woman murdered Joann and Alex. Very soon after, the original hairs (in glass slides) were sent to the FBI again. Yaser Said was found guilty of killing his two daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said, in 2008. After 30 minutes Id be calling someone! False. Irelands husband buried it in the yard because he didnt feel comfortable with a firearm inside, she said. Its true that women were more idiots than about men, they had the impression that if they caught a fool to take them as wives, they would settle for life, even today we see that but more diluted, still an exaggerated reason for murder. A Pennsylvania woman who went missing more than 30 years ago in a case that stumped authorities who later declared her legally dead has been found living in a nursing home in Puerto Rico. Pat is locked in a cage because shes an animal. of course they all do it to make money only, some of them do it shamelessly, without the slightest attempt to be fair and honest. Senate Bill 1399, the compassionate release bill signed into law a year ago, allows prisoners who are permanently and medically incapacitated to be released from prison and into the care of family and caretakers. Relatives at the time told cops that Yaser threatened bodily harm against Sarah for going on a date with a non-Muslim. In TV clips, Andrew didnt come off as anguished. Unless theres a complicity between him and her, and the reason she didnt divulge it is because she hopes to put all the blame on him, when she was the one to murder and he was a planner. That's counting the nine bullets you put in Sarah. I have never seen anything this egregious in all my years.. Wright desires to live her last days with her five children and six grandchildren, was in the statement as well. Im quite happy to accept that ANYONE who makes a TV documentary makes it for money. Nope. They returned with a guilty verdict and a sentence of two life terms. So you see, MY STATE OF MIND is based on factual information. I had never been in jail before and I wasnt allowed to go outside. The state made a case fueled by circumstantial evidence and public outrage over the deaths of a modern-day madonna and child. Youre clutching at straws Im afraid. I saw lots of her defenders saying that he got the hairs from a hairbrush of hers that he had somehow saved, which I thought was absolutely ridiculous. It took jurors about three hours to convict Said for the deaths of his daughters Amina and Sarah in 2008. Rorrer killed two peoplea young mother and her small child and thru the justice system got what the bitch deserved! THE COPS SET HER UP. Blasczyk said she escaped from East Germany as a teenager when the country was under Communist leadership. 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Im new to the case, but there seems to be a lot of reasonable doubt. DALLAS Yaser Said, once listed as one of the most wanted men in America, has been found guilty of killing his two teenage daughters. Just as there is no such thing as the perfect murder, there is also no such thing as the perfect murder investigation. I very much doubt you are. I would think if she would have an passed they definitely wouldve started looking somewhere else but there was just too much evidence against her anyway so.. and with forensics the way they are today. All rights reserved. At one point, Owens looked directly at Said and reminded him of all of the abuse they endured, allegedly having a knife pulled on her. Presumably if they thought the evidence was against the states case, thats how theyd present as theres no obvious reason for them to be biased one way or the other. During the trial, the prosecutor said that the insurance reward would have been $180,000, which was totally exaggerated, said Arletta Wright, Patricias sister, who has been championing Patricias innocence from the beginning of Patricias time in prison. If Patricia had injuries it wouldve only been to her hands and she wasnt questioned right away which is also the reason she took Joanne elsewhere to kill her so her body wouldnt be found for a while and she would have time to return home. But to settle for just anyone being the offender offers no justice to the victims and certainly does no merit to those who are woefully lacking in ALL the details of this case, but nevertheless feel the need to vent their spleen on an innocent person. She said that she has no idea why her ex-husband killed her daughters. It cost me a lot of money, I even put advertisements in the paper down in Puerto Rico looking for her.. No other suspect has existed that would have a motive to kill Joann. We should be skeptical of those, like you, who suggest its obvious a jury got it wrong that you know better than 12 people presented with the evidence. They were not reported until 5:30 the next morning and he had already spliced the phone lines together. Thats all for this post. However, my curiosity is piqued as to why Andrews mother didnt report the missing daughter in law, Joanne and her own grandson Alex! You murdered your girls," she said. Patricia Kopta eventually developed dementia, police said. I dont see any defining comment or wording that justifies that claim. Patricia Prue sentence: Life without parole
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