Right? And that was that. Like, thats absurd. I think some people probably just the far right, but they definitely agree with her. And what I wanted to say was, we cant do this indefinitely without serious consequences? But Marjorie Taylor Greens social circle notwithstanding, theres no doubt our country is facing deep internal divisions. So let me just hit you with a smattering of what we hear. Painting of several men holding another man down, who has been covered in tar and white feathers. This is ridiculous. It demolished traditional power structures and transformed how the country was organized and ruled. We know a lot about that. I dont understand. No, its more secure. And with them, one of the guys in there when hes saying, you hear him say, Id only trust them because I saw it with my own eyes. Theyre passive participants and commentators about events that theyre not in control of that theyre not gonna exert their will over one way or the other. And now, would the Republican party be like that if Mitt Romney had won in twenty twelve and was running again in twenty sixteen. The goal of the American Revolution was to get away from the British government and be free. You know, the majority of people in Scotland voted to stay. You were just talking about it, about this latest thing with Fox News and what makes me so mad about that Fox News thing is and you hit this. Though each of these revolutions had its own origins, important figures, and results, they were all tied together by three things. He didnt threaten him. And who has the power? And Im with these awesome people who dropped everything when they heard the tornado had happened, descend upon Mayfield, Kentucky. You know, towards the end of your book, you lay out with what you call it James Madisons vision of pluralism. Also the French Revolution consisted of a lot more violence than the American Revolution. Again, it was like a little bit heartbreaking because again, it was a It was a perception thing, although I hear Democrats do this with Pete Buttigieg where theyre like, I would vote for a gay guy. When the king called the Estates General, the Third Estate suddenly had a voice. One of the things I fear about the right is the cultural course of the river that is being said. Churches controlled more affairs of the state. The French Revolution was not successful in forming a democratic government due to France's history of a monarchy, economic issues and divison among its' people. And then it runs in to the new course of the river. Oh, which is exactly where we are. Ive said this a million times to folks whove asked, well, how can all of these folks continue to vote for Donald Trump in spite of everything. So I wanna talk to all about one of the core causes. And thats what really concerns me. Sort of laughing at the excesses and not taking it incredibly seriously. Jim Crow violated that social compact in the most dramatic of ways. I mean, this is where you get West Virginia, for example, East Tennessee. The Creole are people of Spanish or Portuguese descent born in the Americas. The stuff in Georgia, he told the guy, you know, see. John Locke an American enlightenment thinker thought people had natural rights and that government should have limited power. Both revolutions followed the anatomy of a revolution and had comparable causes, however the French Revolution politically better outcomes, whereas the Latin American Revolution resulted in poverty and lost territory. If that social compact gets threatened, then we face real problems. However, there is a difference that makes the American revolution succeeded while the French revolution doesnt. Copyright 2023 IPL.org All rights reserved. you can read the same story and here, two totally different sides. In France, the lower classes overthrew the Old Regime. I think a lot of these recent events are making, it seem like it is a bigger possibility. But theyre not, like, mad about her. That there was a very troubling part about why Nikki Haley could not be the president, and it was super like well, no world leader would take a woman seriously. Shes there to fire up the the far right wingers. Although the Civil War and American Revolution shared many similarities, the Civil War differed in the fact that it was more of a confrontation of two opposing. The French Revolution was very bloody because the militant resistance were ordered by the French monarchies. Which is the correct description of a revolution and one of its outcomes? So thanks to all of you for joining us for another episode of the Focus Group. Divided We Fall: Americas Secession Threat and How to Restore Our Nation (by David French), https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/26/opinion/fox-news-lies-dominion.html, Learn more about your ad choices. One hundred percent. I didnt see it certainly not prominently. So as Howard Kurt said, he was on Fox and said, Im not allowed to cover this. Both these revolutions had the similar cause, effects, and stages that resulted or started them. happened? Sarah? No matter their credentials. During the 1600s there was the English Civil War. And people can do it for a while. Oh, god. His idea was the separation of powers so its balanced, as in what we still use. And one of the most disturbing pieces of data that Ive seen is watching the contrast between Mike Pence and Mitch McConnells approval rating and Donald Trumps after January sixth. Like, theres a part of the party that wanted Donald Trump. And so thats why, you know, when I think about National Unity going forward, that exhausted majority So long as the operative word is exhausted and not majority, we face a problem. And you just kinda go back to talking about SEC football, but. They then read, analyze, and compare and contrast each country's national anthem, the Star Spangled Banner and La Marseillaise, by answering 14 questions of varying degrees of difficulty. Kristen Soltis Anderson, I believe, And, Kristen, Im sorry, Im misattributing this to you, but I remember hearing an interview where youre talking about polling Republicans and how important the person at the top of the ticket is to Republican views on issue after issue after issue. And heres the other thing. The similarity between them is that the citizens in both countries, both faced the block of common economical development of the government. One is theres always a what about Yep. And so we saw this in the Trump era in abundance. And does it not strike anybody strange that you go to four different media houses and theyre all saying the same thing. He didnt twist the guys arm. This transcript was generated automatically and may contain errors and omissions. The French Revolution was a revolution fought between the peasants and nobility of France. I was gonna say yes to both. So its been a a minority of it is now in which makes it far more powerful. We are having this really great conversation. And and the question is is like, well, which one wins? And it would. Posted 2 years ago. Although Great Britain, Spain, and France settled in the Americas, their colonies developed in almost completely different ways, like: The Spaniards colonized mainly in South and Central America for economic purposes, like to grow sugar, which lead its colonies to be mainly plantations; The Frenchs main goals in the Americas were to trade fur with the Native Americans and to find a route to the Pacific Ocean to trade with Asia; and the Britishers came here for two main purposes, one for economic matters and to avoid the religious conflict that was happening in England. Oh, you cant take that seriously. Denis Diderot also a French enlightenment thinker created an encyclopedia that explained the new ideas on the topics of government, philosophy, and religion. And yet the most unbelievable things often comes out of their mouths. The French Revolution took place in France from 1789-1799. Mhmm. The English Civil War was a war between the Parliamentarians and Royalists in England. A goal of the French Revolution was that the third estate became eager to have an actual leader that would pay attention to their needs so they because the National Assembly and agreed on the tennis court oath. Will see you guys again next week. Americans fought the war on land with essentially two types of organization: the Continental (national) Army and the state militias. And when I drill down, I find out that they dont actually. The American Revolution emphasized the idea of Montesquieu. They come to us, like, belatedly, and its because, like, Liz Shady. Were clustering religiously. All revolutions have many stages which they go through, these three stages are the main bits of a, The American Revolution and the French Revolution have similar and different causes to their revolution. They even briefly abolished slavery, which would have a strong effect in the French Caribbean colony of Saint Domingue. Bolvar had the support of the relatively new nation of Haiti, and he visited that country twice. Is that a collapse in the faith of institutions? There were around 500,000 enslaved people living in Saint Domingue along with around 30,000 free people of color and 40,000 whites. The American Revolution was caused by the greed of the British and the thoughts of the enlightened people. Both revolutions were connected to each other because of the link between France and Haiti, known then as St Domingue. At that time the remedy for this problem was drafting the poor, uneducated and less fortunate members of society. because a lot of right wing media is an audition for Fox News. Yeah. get to us? The leaders of the French Revolution were inspired by the American Revolution with its established representative democracy. You and I are frequently on the same page about this. I sort of felt like this group was made in the lab for you, David. Direct link to Quinn H.'s post Which one is most importa, Posted 9 months ago. So some of it is this social signaling. British attempts to assert greater control over colonial affairs after a long period . Because Ive even looked at if that ever happened, I would move to a a red state. Direct link to layladuran.2007's post What factors led to the A, Posted 10 months ago. But the republic was short-lived. We have seen scandals in the FBI. The French Revolution, inspired by the American Revolution as well as the Enlightenment, freed French citizens from an absolute monarchy and secured equality before the law for all male citizens. Just like in every warring country, it is inevitable that there will be some change that occurs whether it be for the better or for worse. Can you imagine a United States of Latin America? They see a, like, a mirror image on the other side. This is a group that dislikes Donald Trump, wants to move on to Ron DeSantis. The thing that I was writing about in my book was were getting so polarized that its possible Its not probable. America cant be in these forever worse. Yeah. And Ive always liked this formulation that there was absolutely a recessive gene within the Republican party. In the 18th Century the main problem the Army had was manpower. Also the American colonies had an army of trained officials led by George Washington, to fight against the British. People heavily associate the French Revolution with the American Revolution, due to the many general similarities. Painting of several large sailboats on a stormy sea. We know not to take them seriously. When did the most disturbing pieces of data I have seen in the last really since Trump came down the escalator, which is I mean, Sarah, think about it. And And I said, well, how was your voting experience? So they finally recognized the independence of the 13 North American colonies in the 1783 Treaty of Paris. The French Revolution was a fight between the french citizens and the french monarchy, seeking to overthrow the french king. Direct link to David Alexander's post How about World History f. Yeah. It was a bloody battle between the Mexican people and people who were loyal to Spain. Now theres been some gradual lessening on the left as well, but mainly on the right. Why? But youre right when we read them Marjorie Taylor Greens tweet, here is how they responded. American A "Reign of Terror" followed the revolution (American, French, or Both?) Fire the picture, who just called this right. The American Revolution against the British during 1775 to 1783 and the French Revolution against their own, French government during 1789 to 1799 were both one of the most important political and social turnovers in the world. Like, the red states, blue states then they all have blue cities inside of red states, and we are all intermingled and also based on thanksgivings as best I can tell for gross people, you know, share these different political opinions and people that they love. Yeah. A lot of the critique of the Trump era are going to be mystifying to you. And then number three, theres the question of identity. introduced? Its very hard. During this time period, there were several revolutions that occurred throughout the developing world. They just go to Fox. And if you were going to go against that cultural tone on the right, it was exhausting. Oh, if Democrats move into red states, they shouldnt be able to vote for at least five years. And so And Federalist Ten, what James Madison does is he talks about expanding the sphere of the American Republic. You can be frustrated at how contentious politics are. They both had a time when both sides oppressed the French and British government. Theyre looking at all this toxic mess. By contrast, the British army was a reliable steady force of professionals. People have asked me a million times, why did so many evangelicals vote for the Trump? Finally, they were connected by economic and political networks. The American and French Revolution are not duplicates of each other, but they are very similar. But the point of the one you feed is that means its what theyre taking in. How did Enlightenment ideas, including ideas about sovereignty, contribute to the Atlantic Revolutions? For Britain, taxing their American colonies seemed like a great idea, but after such a long time of self-rule and near autonomy, the colonists in North America had ideas of their own. Compare and Contrast American and French Revolution. The terms of Continental Army service were only gradually increased from one to three years, and not even bounties and the offer of land kept the army up to strength. What factors led to the Atlantic revolution? Toussaint Louverture emerged as the leader of the revolution. Absolutely not. If you have super majorities, Tennessee is like an R plus twenty state. And so thats sort of this core vision of pluralism. Both governments attempted to pay off their loans by taxing subjects who had little say in the matter. Using the language of the Enlightenment, they initially tried to promote harmony between France's social classes and establish a constitutional monarchy with King Louis still on a throne. The response was that cant be right. Similar to the French, it also started because of wanting equality rights. A less radical declaration of independence followed in 1821 through an alliance of rich Creole elites and more conservative clergy. Yeah. Shortly after that, in the 1700s there was the French Revolution. But before I do that since you brought it up, I wanna hit this set. The French Revolution was not successful in forming a democratic government due to Frances history of a monarchy, economic issues and divison among its people. Like, on a government building, that was unimaginable. What were the major causes of the American Revolution? In 1777, French volunteers began arriving in support of the revolution, and in 1778 the French government officially allied itself with the new American country against the British. And so there is some social signaling here. Though they received no formal training, they were not so dependent on a book knowledge of military tactics as were many of the Americans. In this unit, you examined the American and French Revolutions. its not an insignificant part of the party. And thats enough in close states to really make all the difference. They both got their idea from Enlightenment thinkers. Actually, just to back up your point, were calling it the anti anti national divorce sentiment, which is exactly what youre just describing. Fire the guy who called this race. This information is like the biggest word out there. Which countries fought on the side of the colonies during the American Revolution? The purpose was to scare people to support the revolution or they would die. The American revolution and the French Revolution are two major incidents happened in the 1700s, which had intense social impacts on both French and American societies. With fear and famine, French peasants arrived outside the Bastille demanding weaponry and getting denied. Others were unemployed persons from the urban slums. And its so hard to know where the truth is. The American Revolution turned the American society into a republic, as the French Revolution eventually led the French society into dictatorship and more chaos in the, The American and French Revolution both had similar stages that a revolution consists of having a normal stage, widespread dissatisfaction, and the transfer of power and effect. I wouldnt be surprised if it took another civil war, to be honest. The total number of the former provided by quotas from the states throughout the conflict was 231,771 men, and the militias totaled 164,087. We certainly cant be counted on having conservative beliefs because we said something about what was happening. Maybe its both. The American Revolution was a war between the American Patriots in the thirteen British colonies and Great Britain. And the thing that I noticed I hear this a lot, actually, where people say, shes like, AOC. And then close-up the window so that its all hidden. People of all classes, especially the middle and lower classes, began to use these ideas to formulate an ideology of resistance. And when you say censoring in state run, who do you mean? These two powers joined Austria and other European nations in the war against Revolutionary France that had already started . I mean, I live in California I wanna leave California. Second, each revolution rejected rule without representation. The French justified their revolution by following the same principles as the colonists did. My guest today is David French, newly minted New York Times opinion columnist and author of divided We Fall Americas secession threat and how to restore our nation. Lets and hes a rhino. been a long time. Theres no way all of this would happen or just a little too pollyanna ish, in my view, because if you go back to secession in eighteen sixty one, if you go back to the American revolution in seventeen seventy five, moving into seventeen seventy six, Much of the same stuff was true. Like, as I was watching group. But how interested are Americans really and breaking up? The Civil War was more than an unsatisfied party rebelling against a larger power, but a clash between two vastly different ways of life. After Christopher Columbus founded the New World, in 1492, many European nations began to form expeditions to the New World in search for gold. French peasants had to pay the heaviest taxes; leaving them to starve. The collapse of trust, the collapse of trust in institutions, and the class of trust in each other because you need, like, social fabric is built around a kind of social cohesion and trust. What what did you make of how the group reacted? No, I dont. Quebec and Canada has had various referendum about secession and leaving. Beginning with the Stamp Act of 1765, Great Britain tried and failed to raise revenue from their subjects in the American colonies. Compare And Contrast The American Revolution Vs French Revolution, In analyzing the onset of both the American Revolution and the French Revolution we can observe a slew of similarities that they share, along with a couple of ways in which they aren't so similar.The socio political climate was similar during these times where both the Thirteen colonies and France were fractionated into separate groups based on how loyal and comfortable they were with their current government.Along with that, there was much turmoil rooted disagreement about how people should be represented, and whether or not a monarchy was beneficial.However, the key difference during these two Revolutions was that the.

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