The one in the picture with the chrome plated blade came from a vet and I have the documentation and a photo of him wearing the knife in Vietnam. Back in the early, and late 70's, all the guys I approached for any type of knife, especially SOG knives, said they left them in Vietnam. When Coleman bought Western in 1984, they continued the practice, up through M. When Camillus bought Western from Coleman in 1991, they dropped the practice. 3,722,167, 4,962,808 The stamping is only on the Brass guard and there are no letters denoting age. Who has the knowledge for this situation? Theres still a lot to uncover about this subject. I had a new one in the box a few years ago and let it go too cheap for 100.00 at a gun show so I could purchase something else. Its generally excepted that the first two variations on this knife where blade marked (see pics below). Handle has the brass pins and rosewood handle. Yea it is an old thread. Many a GI bought a Western model at the Base Exchange to use in Vietnam. This full-tang sawback Bowie knife is designed for heavy use in brutal survival situations. I have never found any reference to Western chroming their knives. Original Price 6,978,325 The 4th variant also has larger pins. However one cant say that such detailed information ever did exist on paper. It may not display this or other websites correctly. (45% off), Sale Price 3,386,453 Weight for the weight weirdos is 1 lb 4 ounces knife only. Those partners may have their own information theyve collected about you. (39% off), Sale Price 3,722,167 I've mentioned my love for my old w49 several times here. Stay up to date withYour Favorite Knife Makers. Anyone have experience with them? Original Price $31.38 There are things in the old Book which I may not be able to explain, but I fully accept it as the infallible word of God, and receive its teachings as inspired by the Holy Spirit.. 1,637,685, 2,339,655 Stories of Cowboys and Indians and shoot-outs at the O.K. 1,183,432, 2,958,284 1978 was "B" and so on. I have always thought that the Western Bowie with the bigger handle bolts, thick handle, W49 guard marks and ringed sheath was post Vietnam but then came across this on ebay. $22.40, $28.00 I have two other knives my cousin gave me in 1969 when he returned from Vietnam. Sellers looking to grow their business and reach more interested buyers can use Etsys advertising platform to promote their items. (10% off), Sale Price $22.40 Would be great for batoning as it had a very heavy blade of about 6 inches long. Original Price $188.24 (10% off), Sale Price 4,617,980 91/4"LONG BLADE,TOTAL KNIFE LENGTH IS 14 1/2", BLADE WIDTH IS 2" & WEIGHS 1# 14 OZ IN SHETH. Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie Knife 29.99 This Timber Rattler Outlaw bowie knife is one powerful full-tang beast that every manly man needs. I obviously don't know everything about these (or any other Western), just what I've picked up here on BF and other forums, but I think the knives were still being made at Western's Longmont, Colorado factory after Coleman bought the company, so they were being made by the same people on the same equipment using the same materials. AH, I was unaware of this point. 4,173,623, 8,347,245 The bowie knife is a legend of the American frontier. According to Western's 1986 catalog they started producing the W49 in 1964. Wow Colonel, that is very special. Western Bowie 1984. It is guard marked: WESTERN BOULDER / COLO. USA on the mark side and BOWIE on the pile side. The chrome one I own has a replacment sheath made of canvas. Original Price 1,206,897 Many of the examples of Vietnam War vintage Bowies do not appear to have traveled any further west than the California shoreline, Chrome plating of the blade was to protect it from rust in the jungle. Report an Issue | I am aware of much of the history of the Western Bowie knife company and how the w49s were originally made for the special forces but what I cannot seem to find is wat year the model I was made. The facts are that the last two years of the war The U.S. was not sending in much of anything into the country as far as manpower and equipment. Suggestions, Questions, Comments, Concerns, Alerts, Etc Member Store Tips, Tricks & Instructions, The Western Bowie / W49 Identification Thread, Re: The Western Bowie / W49 Identification Thread. If you come across a chrome plated Western Bowie it was probably plated for jungle use. WESTERN BOULDER / COLO. USA on one side and BOWIE on the other. Check out our awesome collection now. If you can located a chromed one I would say there was a good possibility that it was used in Vietnam. The "J" on you knife is a date code. Western started putting the year letter on their knives in 1977 with an "A". We also created 2.6 million jobs in the U.S.enough to employ the entire city of Houston, TX! Those partners may have their own information theyve collected about you. I started looking into this subject a couple of years ago. I turned the log over, picked up the W49 and finished chopping through the log in eight minutes. 2,603,550, 4,733,728 Original Price 6,157,389 According to Westerns 1986 catalog they started producing the W49 in 1964. One must handle this knife to appreciate the quality. I knew your research was fairly extensive and that you had more info than I could ever find in a short timethat's why I linked to your thread from KF. Shipping Discounts Available for Multiple Items Purchased from Sanders Knives: If this item is purchased with another item from Sanders Knives that has a shipping cost of $8.50 or more, standard shipping to US addresses for this item will be discounted to $1.00. If the knife has the original leather sheath I expect to see some pretty hard use on that leather. With powerful tools and services, along with expert support and education, we help creative entrepreneurs start, manage, and scale their businesses. Some of the technologies we use are necessary for critical functions like security and site integrity, account authentication, security and privacy preferences, internal site usage and maintenance data, and to make the site work correctly for browsing and transactions. #7. At least none that I can find. $123.74, $164.99 While the official end of the Vietnam war is April 30 1975 The day the North Vietnamese entered the U.S. Embassy grounds. Dont see this option? 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If there is a letter on the blade under the Western name it is post 1977. 2,093,350, 4,186,946 (45% off), Sale Price 1,637,685 I'm curious on the W49/ or other western knife bowies as a woods knife. Original Price 2,216,502 Even though we were young and we knew every thing.   Vietnam   |   English (US)   |   (VND), remembering account, browser, and regional preferences, remembering privacy and security settings, personalized search, content, and recommendations, helping sellers understand their audience, showing relevant, targeted ads on and off Etsy. 899,015, 2,997,044 Try contacting them via Messages to find out! Check out completed auctions on the 'Bay for an idea of value. Forged from tough 1075 carbon steel, the Undertaker is the largest knife on our list, with a blade length of just over 10 inches, and an overall length of 15.5 inches. My knife has an abbreviated guard that was done by a previous owner and is currently semi-Bagwellized. Of the five two were chrome plated and three were not. If you don't have an account, create one here. Stainless steel does not peel off as you know. I just scored a copy of Harvey Platts' "The Knife Makers Who Went West" from 1978. If you come across a chrome plated Western Bowie it was probably plated for jungle use. I bought one at a Sheriff's auction about 20 years ago. They come all sorts of ways. by Colonel26 Wed May 02, 2018 10:54 am, Post It should show jungle use. The knife in the middle with the larger pins and modified guard is an example of the 5th variant, c.1977. It was also the last year that Western manufactured their knives in Boulder, Colorado. Original Price 1,995,074 Free shipping on orders $99+. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:45 am, Post The marking are very important. 1,896,552, 3,448,276 The only sure way to get one that was in Vietnam is from a vet that can document the knife. Original Price $169.99 Probably one of the most memorable movie quotes of all time came about when Crocodile Dundee scoffed at a mugger's switchblade saying, "That's not a knife." $2295 SIGNED WW11 FIGHTING KNIFE. Original Price 3,029,557 I can hope. Good news! It was also the last year they were made in Boulder, CO. (50% off), Sale Price 1,896,552 2,068,966, 6,896,552 (25% off), Sale Price 1,435,714 They all have heavy use and both have the sheaths replaced after they rotted away. I guess the extra weight of the brass piece on the spine of the blade helps. 1,708,876, 1,898,817 Western didn't seem to keep real accurate records. An "I" version would be from 1985, the year after Coleman took over. Original Price 4,173,456 The western being thinner bites better. Bowie Knives - Knife Depot Looking for a real knife? MERRY CHRISTMAS! Its story begins in the 1820's when James Bowie was able to defend himself by using a large knife at the Sandbar Fight in Louisiana. Charlie, How easy or difficult is it to come across a Western Bowie that actually looks like it may have seen use during the Vietnam War. Charlie, how to identify a Vietnam Western Bowie Fighting Knife, US MILITARIA FORUM - COLLECTORS PRESERVING HISTORY, http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopiid/872513/tp/1/. $299.99 eBay SUPER RARE KABAR HOBO PERFECT HANDLES KNIFE, FORK, SPOON 1923 TO 1037 $875.00 eBay Case XX USA 10 Dot 1970 5254 Trapper Genuine Stag Handles Unused N Mint Specks $345.00 eBay RARE VINTAGE CASE XX REDBONE SCOUT UTILITY KNIFE 6445 R 1940-64 "NICE!!! Skinning/Hunting/Camping knife, Western States, Boulder Colorado 2 blade pocket knife / Advertising pocket knife c.1911-1950. I know a thin edge can chop without damage if used properly, but I cant guarantee I my form will always be perfect when using a "chopper". that was when i was riding with a club, i'm 6'2'' and 230 lbs (wish i still was ) and nobody messed with me, great trouble detorent lol. It can also be identified by the smaller pins in the handle. In his books, Cole called them the V44 Types 1,2,3,4 (Collins, CaseXX, Western, Kinfolks) and the type 5, the CaseXX Fixed blade V44. Original Price 1,243,264 Average depth of cut with the same swing was almost a half inch. Great! (50% off), Sale Price 1,912,315 You could buy it for its charming looks alone, but it performs nearly as well. Original Price 1,898,817 Western USA W49 Wood Bowie Fixed Blade Knife & Sheath c.1984 - Wood Handles - No Cracks - Brass Guard - Very Nice Unused Condition in the Original Leather Sheath - Approx. SKIP. Colt revolvers aside, the Bowie knife was the weapon that made the Wild West wild. 2,135,468, 7,118,227 Captcha failed to load. Original Price 4,962,808 I'm going to put a better edge on it and try it out! 1,666,256, 3,029,557 The 4th variant, I believe, is similarly guard marked and stamped "W49" instead of Bowie, like the 3rd variant, on the pile side. You've already signed up for some newsletters, but you haven't confirmed your address. At least I know the knife was made between 1977 and 1980, thanks for the help! Public collections can be seen by the public, including other shoppers, and may show up in recommendations and other places. I cut the hilt down took some belly off the blade, had a sheath made and for a total investment of $40.00 got a knife that has served me well. If your really lucky you might come across a presentation piece but that is still not a guarentee that it was in Vietnam. 1,912,315, 2,249,754 The knife on the right in my picture above is an example of the 3rd variant. Original Price $28.00 For further info Google: "Bill Bagwell" or "Bagwell Bowie" Re: SOF magazine article c.1987 April issue, MySpace !function(d,s,id){var js,fjs=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0];if(!d.getElementById(id)){js=d.createElement(s);js.id=id;js.src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js";fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js,fjs);}}(document,"script","twitter-wjs"); Western Alamo Bowie Knife 4.8 ( 10 reviews) Your Price: $106.99 Solid stainless steel blade Handsome wooden handle with gold pins Engraved Jim Bowie name plate Includes leather sheath and certificate of authenticity Measures: 11" blade; 17 1/4" overall Product Description From the movie "The Alamo" comes the world renown Jim Bowie knife. Original Price 7,118,227 Value for money . It differs from the W49 by the stainless steel used in the blade and the synthetic stag material they used for the handle. The ones brought home were kept, or given to some relative. JavaScript is disabled. Take this Hibben bowie knife with you into the most untamed environments and use it under the harshest conditions The bowie has a keenly sharp, 14" stainless steel, clip point blade with a high-polish finish and a beefy profile The red-brown, natural-look wooden handle is complemented by a gold-plated blade catcher and handguard It came in handy when I tested a Ontario sp 8 "machete". Original Price 9,852,217 The other three were heavly pitted from the jungle. Original leather sheath. Original Price 9,359,606 Cut off the top guard years ago. Original Price 2,610,345 3,263,547, 4,662,315 Camillus closed it doors for the last time in April of 2007. Not that I advocate getting a knife for the sole purpose of making it collect dust in plain view. In fact in 20 years of service, was never given a Vietnam carried knife. I was looking at my W49 last night and there is not a tang stamp. Etsy is powered by 100% renewable electricity. Here is the best that I can find as far as their tang stamping is concerned That's about all I know. The ONLY differences between versions #2, #3 and #4 are in stamp location(s). This practice was continued after Western was sold to the Coleman Co. in 1984 and goes on until 1991. Please. As I've mentioned I've been offered a nice roi for my blade, but I'm not sure I would take a truck in exchange. Turning off personalized advertising opts you out of these sales. Learn more in our Privacy Policy., Help Center, and Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy. 2,807,882, 9,359,606 4,256,897, 6,978,325 It was thrown in the dirt by a local maker. This traditionally While many of the items on Etsy are handmade, youll also find craft supplies, digital items, and more. $36.50, $121.68 Create a Show & TellReport as inappropriate. Set where you live, what language you speak, and the currency you use. Hey zzyzzogeton thanks for all the info its so hard to find good info on early Bowies but I think I have a correction for you, on Western Bowie #5 Version 1 stainless steel Bowie - It should be blade marked not guard marked WESTERN BOWIE on top of STAINLESS STEEL on top of U.S.A. markings on only one side. Is it possible that the ones you think are chrome plated are STAINLESS STEEL and the ones you think are not chromed are regular "carbon steel"??? I have never seen an original box & papers for a W49 Bowie. I carry it with me on all my excursions. SHINY CRAFTS | Large Bowie Knife With Sheath 18 Inch Mirror Polished D2 Stainless Steel Crocodile Dundee Knife - Razor Sharp Custom Bowie Knife For Men, Outdoor, Hunting Knife . It was also the last year that Western manufactured their knives in Boulder, Colorado. Charlie, http://img11.No_outside_hosting.us/g/cblziwcgkkgrhqyokpme0un.jpg/. Let me know. Depending on the exact age of the knives, they may be very good steel. Ive got WW2 and earlier knives that left the factory chrome plated and most of them look as new or close to it. by WesternBowieAxe Wed May 02, 2018 3:11 am, Post com, usedvictoria.com are popular sites for selling items in Canada. Western made at least two different stock numbered bowies during the Vietnam time period. (15% off), Sale Price 1,812,130 (70% off), Sale Price $89.17 3.2 3.2 . Thin edges can chop without damage, you just have to keep the blade straight so the force of the swing is aligned with the edge. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:46 am, Post By: Westmark Knives Date Added: 02/22/2018 $175.00 Buy Now. 1,952,663, 3,550,296 Western Knives of Boulder Colorado made four models of the Bowie knife. Copyright 2004-2023 allaboutpocketknives.com. That helps narrow it down! That is really the one question I have about the knife. Western made at least two different stock numbered "bowies" during the Vietnam time period. The W47 measures 12" from tip to hilt, W45 measures 9" and the 43 or mini measures 6 1/2". Our global marketplace is a vibrant community of real people connecting over special goods. Western Bowie Knife (1 - 40 of 159 results) Price ($) Shipping All Sellers 16-Inch Old Western Bowie Knife D2 Steel Fixed Blade Wooden Handle / Leather Knife Sheath scorpionhubus (30) $135.00 $150.00 (10% off) FREE shipping Tombstone Ike / Billy Clanton Bowie knife custom-made Hand grind in Texas carbon 1985 steel antler Handle made to order 1 week Original Price 4,186,946 Mine probably dates back farther than yours (before Coleman bought Western) and the vanadium steel they used back then was excellent. (15% off), Sale Price 4,256,897 The sheath for this knife is also unique in my opinion. After pulling out his Bowie knife, Mick exclaimed, "THAT'S a knife!" Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie Knife Check Price. $84.99, $169.99 (30% off), Sale Price 1,025,862 (40% off), Sale Price $75.30 From handmade pieces to vintage treasures ready to be loved again, Etsy is the global marketplace for unique and creative goods. Sign up for a new account in our community. I like them very much. It still could be post Vietnam presentation item but who knows. Average depth of cut with a full swing was about a quarter inch. Original Price 4,740,933 I've never had the Bowie, but older Westerns are fantastic knives. This massive knife was used in early Vietnam era it measures 15" from tip to hilt. (30% off), Sale Price $123.74 Original Price 4,844,560 Getting back to the subject of Bowies during the Vietnam time period.

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