I'm just putting together a short list to get me going. Vihtavuori provides load data for .38 Special, .357 Magnum, .44 Special, .44 Magnum and .45 Colt. not in popularity or usefulness. I have used 2400 for 357 but like it better for 44 Mag. Contest open to U.S. residents only. Louisiana Department of Wildlife & Fisheries, State Agency: Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. But have used Power Pistol in .357 Sig. I'm assuming I can just use any 170 gr bullet data but want to make sure. Hornady jacketed over 5gr. My friend the late John Wootters raised this question in an article from 1983 and even before this, in November 1982, Ken Waters published Pet Loads for the .357 Magnum Carbine.. Switch to jacketed bullets in the .357 Magnum levergun and things get really interesting. The .357 Magnum is probably the most widely-used revolver cartridge today, managing to thrive in an era where the wheelguns and associated cartridges are growing scarce. More details in the thread in Tech Support for those who are interested. The benefits of this are twofold. of what some consider a forgotten Magnum! Contest void where prohibited by law. recommended), (you can try 3.3 gr. Texas Parks & Wildlife Department, State Agency: Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, The Mismatched Model 27: A Curious Revolver, The Colt Mk III Lawman: A Forgotten Revolver, Retro Review: Smith & Wesson LadySmith Revolvers. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. 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Factory warranties may apply in some cases. Bullets are .357 for jacketed and .358 for lead in diameter. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. We dont always need full power loads and my more pleasant shooting loads are assembled with H4227. I'll expand and experiment once I fully understand what I'm doing. What velocities can I safely work my Model 14 up to? I was surprised by how dirty and smokey my rounds were. Originally Posted by Hick. These Speer velocities For Nevada Department of Wildlife, State Agency: 357 caliber. . But if you dont want to buy a new gun to try them out, you can get by with the .357 magnum. Any information or suggestions offered in this article are intended to be put into practice only by serious shooters and handloaders with proper training and using safe reloading methods and recipes. If handgun hunting is your thing, or you want to carry a revolver for protecting from four-legged predators in the wild, the FTX bullet doesnt provide as much benefit as it does in a rifle. If you dont handload, fear notthe .357 is one of the easiest rounds to learn on. 6.1 gr. Below, are three loaded rounds. .357 Magnum hunting loadout. The famous .357 Magnum, loads today have a limit of 17,000 p.s.i., whereas the .357 Magnum's is 35,000. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. 12 gauge. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. Some loads use bullets of .358 for jacketed and .359 for lead. They are all determined experimentally. 85. Optimal accuracy? No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. I'm probably gonna run off about 750 rounds, using hard cast 158 grain SWC. My Speer manual says that Magnum Primers need to be used with w296 and h110 has anyone loaded these powders with standard primers and if so was there any difference? Indiana Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: Lets just say midway tween low and high , In my opinion the K frames just aren't stout enuf for a steady diet of high pressure stuff. While these arent pleasant to shoot, getting mauled is worse. A series of targets John shot with the Marlin 1894, proving the accuracy Although a lot of factory ammo for the .357 is loaded light in deference to all those 80 year old guns out there, a full power .357 S&W Mag with those light 125 grain bullets (remember, the cartridge was made for 158 grain bullets at a published velocity of 1500 f.p.s. shows that 16.5 grains of 2400 powder will drive their 125 grain Much cheaper to load your own. In Cowboy Action Shooting, 45 Colt guns are popular for authenticitys sake, but .357 guns are more practical from a cost standpoint. I have also used Unique with success on lighter loads, Bullseye, Red Dot and American Select didn't impress me for 357 but I didn't try too hard either. .357 Magnum - Published Manufacturer Loading Data. For plinking and target loads Hodgdon's Univeral Clay's w . The next powder is meant for magnum cartridges using heavy bullets. Two guns, one cartridge: The Marlin 1894 and the Ruger Old Model. It was not long before Winchester Model 1892s originally in .32-20 were converted to .357 Magnum. Accuracy can be greatly refined through reloading, though I would go factory for self defense. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. all magnum handgun cartridges and among the top 10 best selling handgun Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. Hand loading self-defense ammo isnt recommended so well table that, but you can load up practice rounds that can approximate your chosen self-defense loads. These are good full power hunting loads. With regards, 357Mag Bullets are .357 for jacketed and .358 for lead in diameter. My ammo doesn't only go in S&W firearms, there are a few other brands that I have so, I have to watch what I reload. Hawaii Department of Land & Natural Resources, State Agency: Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources, State Agency: The .357 remains the best selling of all magnum handgun cartridges and among the top 10 best selling handgun cartridges. If you find your way down to Rod & Gun of New Bedford Sunday you can try some of my .38 loads. Alabama Department of Conservation & Natural Resources. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet, seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not get near the FPS charted. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM March 2022, P.O. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. upper mid, etc. Clays OR 5.0 gr. Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency, State Agency: Unique is a great choice. Deployed military should use stateside address. but only the gas check versions will normally work with the heavier loads. There are several good handgun powders for that use such as AA-1680, H-110 and 4227 and IMR 4427. No purchase necessary. Illinois Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. North Dakota Game & Fish Department, State Agency: (Photo: Andy C). Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. New Jersey Division of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Maryland Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: (Photo: Andy C). Alliant Powder Smokeless Powders. There is also the issue of lead vapor to breathe if on an indoor range. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. in the field and very accurate. The loads are not updated yearly. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. with 125 and 158 Gr Lead or Coated Lead Bullets. Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks, State Agency: However, it gains right at 400 fps from the 18-1/2 Marlin 1894 and puts three shots in 3/4 at 45 yards. Its not exact practice, but it wont bankrupt you to shoot them weekly. Is the .357 Magnum a rifle cartridge? All entries must be received by giveaway end date. is 1235 fps and the ME is 535 ft. lbs. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. Here are the features to watch out for. Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation, State Agency: Unique: Select A Caliber or Gauge Below To View Recipes. It is a special powder developed for Cowboy Action Shooters using lead bullets. 125 gr. Also, started with SP Magnum primers and had about 10 % misfires and unburned powder in lighter loads. For hard cast work up to no more than 6.7grs max Winchesters data, (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. I have probably tried a little of every thing and I seem like Titegroup a little better than any other pistol powder that I have used. Gregory, I've tried over the years, if I was "tailoring" a load to a specific handgun (especially barrel length), to pay attention to the "burn rate" of the powder. over 20 years it was simply known as "the Magnum," as there was no Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Not only is this excellent accuracy, it is a significant increase in muzzle velocity. The .38 Spl. My most-used load these days in a .357 Magnum sixgun is the Lyman #358156GC bullet over 14.0 grains of #2400. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. JHP, 125 gr. For pure laughs, I love a heavy charge of W231 with a 130 grain lead bullet to produce a near-dusk fireball; but more serious recipes are certainly available. Rottiejake said: I'm caught up with all my loads except .357 mag. ), (See note on Powders below or read all about various I prefer the Unique or Universal as the original magnum pistol cartridge, was introduced in 1935 by Smith The faster it burns after ignition, the less unburnt powder and "muzzle flash" on shorter-barreled guns, and quicker velocity attainment on longer-barreled ones. It would be great if I could also use it for .44 mag and .44 special. However, I've read Unique is hard to meter. Contest void where prohibited by law. 2, No. SAFETY DATA SHEET. So, youll need a .357 magnum firearm and a reloading press to really enjoy the cartridge. Reloading Handbook, 2nd edition. For my hunting / power loads , 2400. Arizona Game & Fish Department, State Agency: Just me, and, I have never had a bad time using Titegroup but, sticking to good reloading practices dictates that there should be enough case fill so as to avoid any possibility of a double charge. Read today's "The Armed Citizen" entry for real stories of law-abiding citizens, past and present, who used their firearms to save lives. Come join the discussion about performance, gunsmithing, troubleshooting, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Mine were tested with a 2 3/4" Ruger . I have the Lyman reloading manual. Theres no single cartridge that can do everything, especially not with affordability in mind. Winchester #209 777 Primers - 100-Pack. can also shoot all .38 Special ammunition. use hot loads). I highly recommend using 2 different powders to achieve the best results or those 2 very different rounds. Back. Subscribe To GUNS Magazine. I have your 66's cousin - a 66-1 4", which is my favorite shooter! Since I started doing this seriously, Ive only bought one gun, a .308 bolt-action rifle. No purchase necessary. Any brand-Small Pistol (Magnum) Details. Ive sold plenty of others, because they dont see as much use. 6.4 gr. IMR Smokeless Powder - Rifle. Muzzle velocity from a 4-5/8 Ruger Old Model Flat-Top are 1,050 fps and 1,150 feet per second respectively. I have used Red Dot, Promo, W-231, HP-38, Titegroup, & Unique. Epic 22 Pocket Pistol: The Beretta 71 Jaguar. Its one of the few handgun loads short of a 44 magnum that may deter a bear; it will do more than that to wolves, hogs or large cats. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Where can we push the limit of a compact but powerful cartridge for competitions sake? Reloading bench, featuring the very reloadable .357. The various 125-129 amounts listed above (but not where it says start load), and work up to the Whenever You Try To Make Something IDIOT PROOFThey Will Just Make Better IDIOTS! will drive those bullets to a MV of 1217 fps. vtducrider said: Not looking for full power 357mag loads. No purchase necessary. length article about the .357 Magnum can be found on the Handgun .38 Special +P loads make New. New York Department of Environmental Conservation, State Agency: Can't seem to find any load data for these specific bullets. field (against large predators). 1.590 in. I'll be picking some up in 2 weeks. Alaska Department of Fish & Game, State Agency: 5.8 gr. Read More Handloading Articles (Photo: Andy C). all purpose, and I also use them for .38 special, just less of it. Shellholders: Lee #1 Ammo, Inc. Signature .38 Special - 125 Grain TMJ (Total Metal Jacket) Brass Cased Centerfire Pistol Ammunition - Best Stopping Power .38 Special Ammo. & Wesson as the world's most powerful handgun cartridge. Some manufacturers make the 148 grain hollow-based wadcutter, but theyre uncommon and expensiveand not tailored to your gun. with bullets weighing from 125-158 grains. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. I just use a minimum charge of 15gr of 296 with 158gr coated lead bullets. 2021. The 1:20 tests at 100, 200 and 300 yards proved that with a rifle length barrel, any commercially available bullet will . Thanks for all the input guys. H110 and 296 require Magnum primers and like to be loaded at the upper end. 07-24-2009, 06:32 PM #12. claybird. By FortuneCookie45LC. check out the. The armor piercing round was I get 950 fps with an Ideal 358156GC flat nose cast bullet and 3.7 grains of 700x out of my Henry rifle in .357. MLittle. It has a steel core and will pierce an Classic Browning Light Twelve Auto-5 Review: Busting Clays With the Old Humpback Shotgun. grain bullets are the top choices for personal defense against "bad (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. FPS) (unless at least using a Gas Check) (with pure lead wadcutters, do not Recipe. First time using lead cast bullets. Winchester #209 Primers for Shotshells. I can't claim to have developed these - just use them as my go to loads. My most-used load these days in a .357 Magnum sixgun is the Lyman #358156GC bullet over 14.0 grains of #2400. You can try bowling pin shooting or metallic silhouette. South Dakota Game, Fish & Parks, State Agency: I'd have to agree with some , 2400 and unique . If part of your plinking enjoyment . Like they say, this is close enough for government work. For plinking and target loads Hodgdon's Univeral Clay's w/regular small pistol primers has become my favorite. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. They felt is was a dirty powder and so all your cartridges would . Connecticut Department of Energy & Environmental Protection, State Agency: Kentucky Department of Fish & Wildlife Resources, State Agency: 6 shots and point the muzzle upwards before each shot across a chronograph and 6 shots with the muzzle pointed down over the same chronograph. Your trying to do what I was trying to do for a whole year. I keep my loads to 1,100 FPS in the .357 magnum w/ cast bullets. Smokeless powder .38 Spl. Teach them the truth, and let them sort thru the cobwebs of liberalism that have infested their minds. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. If the loads work in the rifle barrel its almost a sure thing they will do fine in the sixgun, however it is almost imperative one uses either jacketed or hard cast gas-checked bullets in the rifle barrel. Some people might think this is too little gun for a humane kill on a whitetail; this is misguided. The bullet gets a clean kill without fragmenting. When I began (starting with .38's), I picked up a pound of Hodgdon 'Universal Clays'. Michigan Deptartment of Natural Resources, State Agency: section of the Speer Reloading Manual Number 14 Reloading Scale, Powder Scale for Reloading, 1500 Grains X . Smith & Wesson Model 586: Reviewing A .357 Revolver With Class. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. cast, but bullet is unstable and not I use 3.5 gr of Red Dot, and a 105 gr Lee SWC in .38 special cases for my Cowboy Action/Snub Nose Training/Plinking/New Shooter load. It is suitable only for full power magnum handgun loads and .30 Carbine loads. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. their 158 grain bullets to a MV of 1151 fps, and 15.5 grains of H110 I don't want to blow myself up right away. You can. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. . Factory warranties may apply in some cases. When Im researching guns and I find myself in that fevered moment where I must have a new treasure, my most common check against excess is a simple mental test: 1) Is it going to do anything my .357 Magnums wont do? I've considered H110, but didn't know if it would be a good "all around" powder. JHP, (WC= WadCutter, SWC= Semi-WadCutter, HP= Hollow Point, RN= Round Nose), SP=Soft Point, (JHP= Jacketed Hollow Point and if GC indicated, means Gas Check at bottom of lead bullet), (Note: These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start. I would exclude H110 altogether. (I) Giveaway ends March 31, 2023. Like mentioned, use a magnum primer with magnum powders and do not reduce H1110/Win 296 below recommended start loads. guys", but have not provided top accuracy in my .357 handguns. Location: Colorado, USA. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for DILLION CARBIDE 45 LONG COLT 3 DIE SET #14405 NOS RELOADING at the best online prices at eBay! Most loads will work fine in a sixgun as long as they chamber in the cylinder, however the levergun can be pickier. Cowboy Action Shooting .357 load. Jul 7, 2011. If you had 2400 or similar powder you would be set up perfect for magnum lead loads. Not only is this excellent accuracy, it is a . Nebraska Game & Parks Commission, State Agency: This loading breaks 1,340 fps in my four-inch barrel Python. 32 H&R Magnum. While the Colt Model 601 was the first AR-15 to be mass-produced, there were several design variations that came before during the platform's development. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Dillon Precision 14400 38 Spl 357 Mag Pistol 3 Three Die Set Carbide Brand New at the best online prices at eBay! Id like to make the case that everyone who loves shooting should have a place in their safe and on their shelves for a .357 Magnum firearm and ammunition. Maximum versatility? I think I'll start with Unique. Cheers! 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Is a VERY GOOD powder for mid range .357 loads but would opt out on this one for hotter personal defense loads or hunting ammo . Posts: 3,825. No you will not. Being used to SD of 12 for precision rifle I was taken back to see SD in the 50's for some of 357 Mag loads. These days, thats saying quite a lot! This was written nearly 40 years ago and not much has changed. You can add Hodgdon Lil'Gun for heavier bullet in the .357 Magnum. Follow the reloading manuals precisely. Then use whatever you can find cheap for 38 special right now. fps, and a maximum load of 17.2 grains of H110 will drive the same Also 231, which is a completely different type of powder and meters better. H110 and Win 296 is the most common magnum loads for .357 Magnum. These two have always worked best for me.
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